Open Mornings. Streatham and Clapham?? I wonder whether there is some unwritten agreement between the schools. Jags VS Alleyns. Please be aware that many of these are given to students attending the Junior School, who sit the entrance exam as well. @DiscoJanet - Alleyn's do interview pupils for 7+ (I would have thought at 11+, too) but they don't interview parents. See more of Jags VS Alleyns on Facebook. If you mean racially then JAGs might be slightly more mixed than Alleyns? After attending Alleyns School, where his performing career began, he studied at Central St . We'd always assumed we would prefer a co-ed school but the facilities and clubs at Jags junior school seem better. )But it definitely seems less diverse than pretty much every other local school. Just on gut feel we went for Alleyns. January 31, 2013 at 11:25 AM. Vocab Express. Carols at Woodfield Pavilion. See more of Jags VS Alleyns on Facebook. Its probably that those looking to leave either school aren't the strongest within their respective cohorts which might be why they are looking for a change to begin with.Does anyone have any view on which is better at music? who has been increasingly irritated by the boys messing around in class. Linguascope. Senior School Parent Portal. Yes i know they do at 11 though. Alanah Dennis. To use this feature subscribe to Mumsnet Premium - get first access to new features see fewer ads, and support Mumsnet. jags.org.uk Head Alex Hutchinson, MA, from September 2020; previously Head of Woldingham School Pupils 1,129 day girls Ages 4–18 Term fees £6,267 Oxbridge 11% Admission Cognitive ability test and interview Alumnae Lucy Boynton, Anita Brookner, Charlotte Ritchie Prep head Finola Stack Prep Pupils 303 day girls Prep Ages 4-11 Prep Term fees £5,679. Read Our Prospectus. Alleyn’s offers around 150 places at 11 Plus. University of Cambridge - Classics Project. Interested in joining JAGS Choral Society? )- facilities are amazing (for both junior and secondary) and equal focus on academia as sport/art/performance- high end lunch provision and after school clubs- very tough to get in too so PERCEIVED (she says in reality both are great!) GOV.UK uses cookies which are essential for the site to work. I really respect that ethos. Our pupils are drawn from a variety of social, cultural and economic backgrounds, which contributes to the success and character of JAGS. www.alleyns.org.uk: Charity Commission. I have one friend who chose JAGs over Alleyn's as she thought it would be better for her very sporty daughter. Just go with the atmosphere your DD likes most... she will thrive at either. T: 020 8557 1500 reception@alleyns.org.uk. We saw most of the school and were able to ask lots of questions. On the other hand, Alleyn's has amazing music teachers and ensembles, and their drama department is excellent as well. Can I ask what you've heard about Alleyns that suggests it's by far the better school please? Dulwich College is a 2–19 independent, day and boarding school for boys in Dulwich, London, England.It began as the College of God's Gift, founded in 1619 by Elizabethan actor Edward Alleyn, with the original purpose of educating 12 poor scholars.It began to grow into a large school from 1857, and took its current form in 1870 when it moved into its current premises. The Alleyn’s Drama Department is a space where pupils can leave behind the complex business of being a teenager in the 21 st Century to focus on making and enjoying challenging and lively theatre, developing their confidence, creativity and craft in a welcoming and inclusive environment.. View Map. James Allen's Girls' School, abbreviated JAGS, is an independent day school situated in Dulwich, South London, England. I read Summers post as the opposite- ie. Many thanks, Have a daughter at both. I think these departments really benefit from being coed (I think JAGs may collaborate with Dulwich College for music and drama so perhaps this isn't a massive issue in the older years).I think you will get a really good idea when you revisit; you can try to picture your dd at the school when you visit. Alleyn's School Townley Road London SE22 8SU. No idea if this is true but something to think about, and ask about if relevant for your dd.On the other hand, Alleyn's has amazing music teachers and ensembles, and their drama department is excellent as well. Alleyns bent over backwards to accommodate us and we were shown around as a family. They typically make up one third of the cohort at 11+, with around two thirds joining at this point. This raises questions for me. I think the point about how universities view Alleyns is a bit off. Forgot account? Community. more stories . And before anyone shoots me down, I am just passing on her opinions. Money isn’t class after all.When my husband and I went around I remember thinking Alleyns felt far posher in class terms than the other schools we’d visited. The Coach Service transports children to and from school daily, on both regular morning and afternoon coaches and also late coaches for … Known universally as JAGS, the school dates from 1741, part of the same foundation as Dulwich College and Alleyn's School, and claims to be the oldest girls' school in London. JAGS is better than most girls' sports apart from water polo, the drama at Alleyn's is outstanding, the music at both is very good. JAGs has 35 places at 4+ and Alleyns has 9 for girls at 4+. 2. If you are interested in applying to JAGS, we have produced a series of films to give you a taste of life both in and out of the classroom. Please s end an email to info@jagschoralsociety.com. Unfortunately we are not in that lucky situation to pick as we are on the waitlist ... DulwichMum1234 Thanks fro your response and I hope you get an offer soon. Charlotte Busn-God Borten . or. Go alleyns! It has a senior school for 11- to 18-year-old girls, a prep school … Alleyns doesn't do this at any stage as they feel like they've made a commitment to the children once admitted. So sought after, well done on getting one of only 18 places! I have A very close friend that has one at each of the schools. James Allen's Girls' School (JAGS) is an independent day school for girls aged 4 - 18 in Dulwich, London. Alleyn's 400; Alleyn's Holiday Camps; Alleyn's WW1 Commemoration Site (opens in new window/tab) The 400th Anniversary Campaign; Latest News; Contact Us; Term Dates; Coronavirus Information; Back to top. JAGS- as nurturing as Alleyn’s in practice- equally focussed on academics but less so on all the extra curricular activities (in comparison) but still very good- all girls can sometimes make it cliquey- less focused on confidence/leadership qualities although excellent at instilling in girls that it’s ok to fail; important to keep trying etc- some facilities are not ideal (ie language classes etc done in temporary outside buildings etc)Her advice was both are great overall. My older DD does have a fairly diverse year in the senior school though with a lot of the children from different backgrounds and many benefitting from Alleyn’s fantastic bursary provision. JAGS is a 4-18 academically selective school for girls with a passion for life and learning. This is page 1 of 2 (This thread has 33 messages.). It felt more vibrant and modern. or. Contact the Admissions Team. alleyns in a sentence - Use "alleyns" in a sentence 1. But am struggling to write Alleyns off just because of that.We have visits to both schools booked - hopefully that will clarify the situation! Does she have a preference? While Alleyns is theoretically more selective JAGs outperforms Alleyns academically most … I don't remember my dd having an interview for the 7+! Congratulations to your dd, what a great choice to have.What are your dd's interests? Log In Yes Londongirl the lack of diversity at Alleyns is quite striking. I wonder if any school does this. Please go promptly to your pick up point after school. Further details for the whole school can be found in our prospectus. Depends what you mean by diverse. January 31, 2013 at 10:01 AM. I wondered if JAGs would offer her a greater breadth of sports as it has twice as many girls?She's quite a robust character (!) However, having looked at all the schools in the area including co-eds like Rosemead and Oakfield, they are all significantly more diverse than Alleyns for some reason. In the end we've decided its Alleyns. Homework levels are reasonable (and none during holidays!) What a lovely choice to have to make! JAG's has much more racial diversity in the junior school and in the secondary school offer a higher percentage of bursaries so is pretty economically diverse too. related stories. T: 020 8693 0374 . Log In. From what I hear Alleyn is by far the better school. The certainly do now - my son has just been through it: written exams and, if you make the cut, then an activity morning about 10 days later, which also includes a 1:1 with a teacher (possibly the head). London SE22 8TE. 144 East Dulwich Grove. B2 CHISLEHURST / BROMLEY / PENGE / SYDENHAM Serves JAGS and Alleyn's only . The thing that tips it towards JAPs / JAGs for me at the moment is that its much more diverse (ethnically and economically) than Alleyns. We saw all the facilities again. Alleyns and JAGS students should take the ‘S3 Shuttle’ from JAGS to Dulwich College in the afternoon (departing at 4.00pm and board the B1 at DC. We met key staff who were all v welcoming and friendly. I just hope it helps as we had a similar dilemma with north London schools for my eldest and a post on here really helped me choose the right school so I hope this helps in return! Alleyns' policies strike me as more nurturing-- they don't manage kids out, they have a sibling policy etc so they aren't as obsessed with league table results and it has a reputation for being less pressured- I have friends who teach music at Alleyns and JAGs. In an average year this would mean that around 100 places are available to external candidates at 11+. We'd always assumed we would prefer a co-ed school but the facilities and clubs at Jags junior school seem better. I can't think it would be an admissions issue at all (especially as out of all the schools we've gone through both the 7+ and 11+ processes for both my dc, the admissions process at Alleyns was the about the only one which seemed to be purely based on academic assessments - ie no interviews or parent meetings, and as far as I remember didn't even ask what the parents occupations were or if there were family connections to the school, unlike eg both Jags and Dulwich college IIRC. Tatler Schools Guide. It obviously depends on the child but Alleyns is more nurturing and focused on making children into well rounded people rather than passing exams. She's delighted and we're delighted for her.We've already been to open days and we will revisit both schools but realistically we'll struggle to choose as they're both such strong schools.Any opinions? I just can't work out why. Accreditations. But if you are asking about advice on which to pick my friend says Alleyn. Thanks very much, that was really helpful. Sun 13 Dec - 2-3pm. in this section. Open Mornings. Welcome to the JAGS Junior School website, which is intended to give you a flavour of the education the girls experience at our school. DPL students to be brought over to Dulwich College by minibus to catch the B1 there. JAGS Office 365. Also Alleyns do interview even at 4+ where the assessment is entirely play based in a group setting with other candidates and involves no formal academic assessment. none fo the Alleyns girls got into JAGS even though a 2 JAGs girls got into Alleyns. Its the main thing that gives me pause about the school. To think women should be told this about the morning after pill? (NB – the school also has a smaller entrance point at 13+, with some… To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. Izzy Elkington. We have heard from a friend whose DD has been to both schools that Jags junior school can be unnecessarily strict and that they put a lot of pressure on the girls with not very good results - 2 years ago 10 of the Jags junior girls applied to Alleyn’s at 11+ and only 2 got in. There is another thread on the board with a mom who has kids at both Alleyns and Dulwich College and she mentioned Alleyns has a far more ‘luvvie’ posh vibe when asked to compare the schools. Latest News. and as your DD has gotten in, she'll have no problem with the academic level. The Foundation Schools' Coach Service provides a convenient means of travel for pupils of Alleyn's School, Dulwich College and JAGS. We have friends at Alleyns whose children are equally happy. Maybe it was included in the assessment day itself then? As at Jags it was a totally separate activity from the entrance exam itself (about two weeks later, 1-1 with the head etc). What Others Say About Alleyn's. See more of Jags VS Alleyns on Facebook. Create New Account. I don't like that they manage girls out of the prep as it must create a feeling of added pressure to do well. I wonder if its reputation itself puts people from non-white non-Dulwich village-types off from applying in the first place. Jags VS Alleyns. Tweets by alleyns_school. Dulwichmum - that's interesting, because that's the opposite of what I have heard, particularly for the junior school where friendship have been difficult to make due to small class sizes, plus some other reasons which are more hearsay. Another Press Conference this afternoon .... Do you have questions about creating positive bathroom habits and routines? senior. Contact James Allen's Girls' School. 1057971. Find out what Mumsnet users thought of Echo by Lloyd’s Pharmacy, Share your imaginative play tips with The LEGO Group: £200 voucher to be won, Talk widget showing discussions of the day & trending threads, Subscribe to Mumsnet emails direct to your inbox. I love the feel of the senior school but am just not sure if there are enough facilities in the junior school, for example with regard to music tuition, drama etc especially compared to Jags junior schools. T: 020 8693 1181. prep. more stories. My Maths. Useful Links. However, I know parents who swear up and down that JAPS is very nurturing despite its reputation for only suiting a very academic girl. At the Pre-Prep (Reception to Year 2) and Prep (Year 3-6) we offer an exceptionally high quality of education provided by a team of skilled, motivated, and dedicated teachers and support staff. It seems like a much more inclusive environment which matters to us.I know people think Alleyns is less diverse than JAGs and Dulwich College because its co-ed and ethnic minorities prefer single sex. Alleyns definitely didn't do that at 7! Create New Account. We've unexpectedly been offered a place at both Jags and Alleyns junior school and don't know which to pick! She felt that Alleyn's might put boys sport first over the girls. So our dd has (unexpectedly) got into both of these at 11+. Carols at Bell House Garden Sun 20 Dec - 3.00-3.30pm. You can’t go wrong with either so it’s more about picking which is better for your child. We've unexpectedly been offered a place at both Jags and Alleyns junior school and don't know which to pick! She's got a good mix of friends - both 'girly' and 'sporty' mix, who all seem to get on well. We found that English is the preferred language on Alleyn S School Post pages. 55 likes. Would you be able to ask your friend why she would pick Alleyns over Jags please? pre-prep. Contact Us. We have another DD in Alleyn’s senior school and have been very pleased with it so far. Alleyn's School, registered charity no. My dd is in yr 10 at JAGS and and loves it and says she's so pleased she went there. JAGS pupils regularly achieve excellent results in the National Mathematics Competitions and our Hans Woyda Quiz team is never considered an 'easy' match by other schools. JAGS is by far the academic of the two schools. She described DC as more down to earth which I think is also true for JAGS.I think that’s probably off putting for many as no matter how much money you have now as someone who was either previously working class or non-white British that vibe will strike you as the school potentially not being for you. I live locally and I don't think Alleyns is perceived to be much better at all. She says ultimately both are excellent schools. 2 Dulwich Village. She said if she had to pick one over the other that’s the route she would go. There's a thread further down this page...They're both great . It would be interesting to see the breakdown of diversity of ethnic and economic groups of those applying to each school actually. 54 likes. Find Us. We also use non-essential cookies to help us improve government digital services. Yammer. 144 East Dulwich Grove. Seem unlikely but less likely than the JAGS girls not being up to the standard. Find out what Mumsnet users thought of Echo by Lloyd’s Pharmacy, Share your imaginative play tips with The LEGO Group: £200 voucher to be won, Talk widget showing discussions of the day & trending threads, Subscribe to Mumsnet emails direct to your inbox. Visitor Posts. March 4, 2013 at 8:17 AM. Our DD got into both also for 4+. as better by other schools/universities if want to move on (despite league tables). The later Robert Browne wrote to Alleyn in 1612, showing that the Alleyns knew both men. We initially thought we wanted Jags but went to see them both again (after we had the offers), talked to local friends with experience of both, and decided on Alleyns in the end. JAGS is the more focused of the two schools and the girls are bright and buzzy. Community. Just looking at the admissions information, both send a similar proportion of children to top schools.JAP's does have more of a reputation for being a hot house though I've heard its not entirely true and is quite nurturing from friends with girls there now. London SE22 8TE. It is a registered charity and was originally part of Edward Alleyn's College of God's Gift charitable foundation, which also included Alleyn's School and Dulwich College. Accreditations. Many thanks. My DD is at JAGS and abosolutely loves it. Many thanks . It is the oldest girls’ independent school in Greater London. While Alleyns is theoretically more selective JAGs outperforms Alleyns academically most years though there isn't much in it. That is not to say Alleyns doesn't get good results but they have a much broader intake academically due to their admissions policy. We don't know anyone at either school so would love to hear from anyone who knows them please. We also have offers from Jags and Alleyn’s at 7+. Mainly because we felt it less pressured - Alleyns does have high expectations, but ultimately we felt Jags had a feel that if you weren't absolutely excelling at something/everything you would be sidelined. Not Now. Alleyns is certainly very international though and has a lot of bilingual kids. I am sure there are lots of differing opinions on this topic, this is just one person’s view based on their child. reception@alleyns.org.uk. Jags were less flexible but we did manage to join a group tour. There's very little difference in results - JAGS is usually fractionally ahead but you'd expect that from a girls' school, but if you have a bright, motivated child at either they'll come out with stellar grades We are leaning towards Alleyn’s for this DD too mainly due to the same observations DulwichMum1234 has made above. We didn't regretted our choice for a single second. If they want to be more inclusive, it’s something they should think about as it’s actually the staff / administrators that give it that vibe imo. The teachers are really supportive and school lunches apparently delicious. Yes, the diversity issue is striking and one factor we are grappling with as we decide between Alleyn's and Dulwich College. While Alleyns is theoretically more selective JAGs outperforms Alleyns academically most years though there isn't much in it.Which you pick comes down more to ethos I think. Last year, none of the girls applying for Jags from Alleyns in the 11+ got in! 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